Kabila, Rwanda, and the 'End of the 2018 Interlude': the debate between Patrick Mbeko and Christian Moleka

The debate between Patrick Mbeko and Christian Moleka focuses on Joseph Kabila, former president of DRC, who led the country from 2001 to 2019. Mbeko states that Kabila was forced to turn to armed groups due to external pressures, especially from Rwanda, and urges a closer look at Congolese relations with Kigali. Moleka disagrees, emphasizing that Kigali has had a clear agenda for over thirty years, and that Congolese seeking external support often serve foreign interests. He links Kabila's decision to a prolonged 'hidden war' since 2018, which peaked in 2021, between a departing and an incoming president.